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US Tariffs, Sigh!

user23434

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Problem is not enough lawful ways. If the US only granted 10 people to enter the county a year, is the argument that we HAVE a lawful way still in reality true? If I so happen to be born in some third world country and my only hope of surviving a better life was to somehow make it to another country, I'd probably do the same if I couldn't obtain it a legal way. I'm not saying we allow all in, but the limits do generate this problem. Most of the South Koreans couldn't get a specific H-1B visa because they have a limit on how many each country gets.. so they skirted the law and got them HB visa (or something?) which didn't allow them to work but to supervise. Any they knew it but were relying on our government to look the other way as they have in the past. We're not producing enough children to sustain our population, so bringing in immigrants is the only thing keeping us from turning into a stagnant

Problem is not enough lawful ways. If the US only granted 10 people to enter the county a year, is the argument that we HAVE a lawful way still in reality true? If I so happen to be born in some third world country and my only hope of surviving a better life was to somehow make it to another country, I'd probably do the same if I couldn't obtain it a legal way. I'm not saying we allow all in, but the limits do generate this problem. Most of the South Koreans couldn't get a specific H-1B visa because they have a limit on how many each country gets.. so they skirted the law and got them HB visa (or something?) which didn't allow them to work but to supervise. Any they knew it but were relying on our government to look the other way as they have in the past. We're not producing enough children to sustain our population, so bringing in immigrants is the only thing keeping us from turning into a stagnant economy.
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user23434

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"You're going to have to prove that "lawful immigrants" are the ones being rounded up." Not a very American statement. All these years I have believed law enforcement and prosecution must show evidence. And all these years I have believed you were innocent until proven guilty. So, was Perry Mason, Columbo, Matlock and Law & Order just a hoax? Is the constitution a hoax?

If someone doesn't want to be called fascist they should stop doing fascist things.
Correct, our citizens have these rights.
 

MikePro

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The right to shoot children in schools? The right to be pulled over and shot?
The right to be bundled up in an unmarked car by masked armed men?
You friggin bet we did.
be more retarded.
nobody has the right to murder.
nobody has the right to invade their neighboring country.
nobody takes australia serious on anything ...especially after people died in their covid concentration camps.
 

Texas_Signmaker

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I was in Japan last week and a lot of Australians visit there. One thing I can say is your accent is worse than the Japanese trying to speaka Engrish. I couldn't understand shit those Australians were trying to say.
 
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user23434

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The right to shoot children in schools? The right to be pulled over and shot?
The right to be bundled up in an unmarked car by masked armed men?
You friggin bet we did.
Criminals still have guns and now there is no way for you to defend yourself against them. Only you can call the police who will be there in an hour while you are robbed, raped, and murdered. Notice how it is always criminals doing crime.
 

user23434

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That's not how the constitution works, bud. Maybe give a read sometime.
This is currently being ironed out.. I presume you are talking about the 14th amendment which was intended to protect newly freed slaves, not illegal invaders who come into the USA illegally breaking our laws.

  • Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886): Ruled that the Equal Protection Clause protects non-citizens (in this case, Chinese immigrants) from discriminatory state laws.
  • Plyler v. Doe (1982): Held that illegal immigrant children are entitled to public education because the Equal Protection Clause covers all persons in a state’s jurisdiction.
The issues that this is causing:
  • States and local governments bear much of the cost of services like schools, hospitals, and policing.
  • When large numbers of illegal immigrants invade, these systems can become strained.
  • Legal residents and citizens may feel resources are diverted away from them — which fuels political and social tension.

  • Many state and local attempts to restrict services to illegal immigrants run into conflict with Supreme Court precedent (Plyler v. Doe, 1982).
  • Lawsuits are filed, often resulting in injunctions, which keeps courts tied up.
  • Until the Supreme Court revisits Plyler or Congress changes federal immigration law, states have limited options.

Federal immigration enforcement and asylum law are also under pressure because of the damaging effect this has had on our judicial system, hospitals, schools, public services, and society.
  • Constitutional side: The 14th Amendment says protections apply to any person in U.S. jurisdiction. Courts have interpreted this to include illegal immigrants.
  • Policy side: Many Americans worry that this incentivizes illegal immigration, strains public services, and creates unfair burdens on citizens.
Until Plyler v. Doe is overturned (or Congress redefines federal law), states remain bound to provide certain basic rights and services to illegal immigrants, even if that creates serious issues.
 
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This is currently being ironed out.. I presume you are talking about the 14th amendment which was intended to protect newly freed slaves, not illegal invaders who come into the USA illegally breaking our laws.

  • Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886): Ruled that the Equal Protection Clause protects non-citizens (in this case, Chinese immigrants) from discriminatory state laws.
  • Plyler v. Doe (1982): Held that illegal immigrant children are entitled to public education because the Equal Protection Clause covers all persons in a state’s jurisdiction.
The issues that this is causing:
  • States and local governments bear much of the cost of services like schools, hospitals, and policing.
  • When large numbers of illegal immigrants invade, these systems can become strained.
  • Legal residents and citizens may feel resources are diverted away from them — which fuels political and social tension.

  • Many state and local attempts to restrict services to illegal immigrants run into conflict with Supreme Court precedent (Plyler v. Doe, 1982).
  • Lawsuits are filed, often resulting in injunctions, which keeps courts tied up.
  • Until the Supreme Court revisits Plyler or Congress changes federal immigration law, states have limited options.

Federal immigration enforcement and asylum law are also under pressure because of the damaging effect this has had on our judicial system, hospitals, schools, public services, and society.
  • Constitutional side: The 14th Amendment says protections apply to any person in U.S. jurisdiction. Courts have interpreted this to include illegal immigrants.
  • Policy side: Many Americans worry that this incentivizes illegal immigration, strains public services, and creates unfair burdens on citizens.
Until Plyler v. Doe is overturned (or Congress redefines federal law), states remain bound to provide certain basic rights and services to illegal immigrants, even if that creates serious issues.
That's a lot of words to say I'm right.
 

JamesLam

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Criminals still have guns and now there is no way for you to defend yourself against them. Only you can call the police who will be there in an hour while you are robbed, raped, and murdered. Notice how it is always criminals doing crime.
They should have been nicer to Crocodile Dundee and maybe he would not have moved to the US.
 
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