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lol my last post. Yes, sign shops do graphic design, but a graphic designer can do more than signs. That was what I was getting at. Logos - people that are good at logos are necessarily good at layouts. Print ads, identities, signs and more.
Old Paint - I agree with you 100%, that doesn't make them a graphic designer. A graphic designer would have planned better, probably had research to know that all capitals are harder to read. They would know not to stretch the fonts past their original proportions. They would pick clear fonts that are easy to read from distances all while using good color combos. They would probably make sure their designs worked in black and white, much like sketching out an idea first. I'm definitely not disagreeing with you, I actually fully agree with you, that people use the term graphic designer very loosely. Which was the point kind of behind the whole article / this post. To explain that there is more to it than clicking a few buttons.
You do have a point about being a salesman. I guess I do use a lot of the jargon and am being like a salesman. I do it sometimes though to kind of help people I deal with, realize that what I do is not just take their ideas and make it because that's what they want. I use it to take their idea, explain that while their idea may seem good, that sometimes it doesn't make sense depending on results they would like to see. So yes, I am a salesman I guess - but I try to sell myself.
I know I haven't been around as long as many of you have, nor do I have all the experience. I only know what I've been around, which is a few small sign shops and a couple of big corporate companies. I'm taking what I've gathered from the two. I know from the sign shop portion, there are a ton of hacks that use the term graphic designer. It becomes a cut throat competition. When it comes to the corporate side of things though, with big companies it comes with some results, and a proven track record. Maybe some logo designers that charge premium dollars are the same hacks and just have gotten really good at selling themselves. Small mom and pop companies around where I'm at, do hire "graphic designers" for $12 an hour. I applied to work at one of the local casinos and told them they would be lucky if I put on pants for that price. But just because the industry is flooded with people that can access filters in photoshop calling them graphic designers, that doesn't change what you do if you are good at it. Certain pieces / assets are made to achiever certain things. Hitting those goals is what it's about.
I will go back to creating my hack designs now. I am on your guys' side though about people using the term graphic designer, and not being one. I feel like I am one, when the definition is broken down, and just because someone may not be as good as me, I don't let it ruin the term.
Old Paint - I agree with you 100%, that doesn't make them a graphic designer. A graphic designer would have planned better, probably had research to know that all capitals are harder to read. They would know not to stretch the fonts past their original proportions. They would pick clear fonts that are easy to read from distances all while using good color combos. They would probably make sure their designs worked in black and white, much like sketching out an idea first. I'm definitely not disagreeing with you, I actually fully agree with you, that people use the term graphic designer very loosely. Which was the point kind of behind the whole article / this post. To explain that there is more to it than clicking a few buttons.
You do have a point about being a salesman. I guess I do use a lot of the jargon and am being like a salesman. I do it sometimes though to kind of help people I deal with, realize that what I do is not just take their ideas and make it because that's what they want. I use it to take their idea, explain that while their idea may seem good, that sometimes it doesn't make sense depending on results they would like to see. So yes, I am a salesman I guess - but I try to sell myself.
I know I haven't been around as long as many of you have, nor do I have all the experience. I only know what I've been around, which is a few small sign shops and a couple of big corporate companies. I'm taking what I've gathered from the two. I know from the sign shop portion, there are a ton of hacks that use the term graphic designer. It becomes a cut throat competition. When it comes to the corporate side of things though, with big companies it comes with some results, and a proven track record. Maybe some logo designers that charge premium dollars are the same hacks and just have gotten really good at selling themselves. Small mom and pop companies around where I'm at, do hire "graphic designers" for $12 an hour. I applied to work at one of the local casinos and told them they would be lucky if I put on pants for that price. But just because the industry is flooded with people that can access filters in photoshop calling them graphic designers, that doesn't change what you do if you are good at it. Certain pieces / assets are made to achiever certain things. Hitting those goals is what it's about.
I will go back to creating my hack designs now. I am on your guys' side though about people using the term graphic designer, and not being one. I feel like I am one, when the definition is broken down, and just because someone may not be as good as me, I don't let it ruin the term.
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