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worst than canva.....

visual800

Active Member
and so its beginning! AI and ChatGPT files for art....WONDERFUL! More BS art at low resolution and they have no idea how to send a damn PDF that is not a jpeg or png. Im so glad Im on the downslide of life where I dont have too much longer to put up with this BS! I cant imagine it getting much worse than it is now. Overdone logos and art that is absolutely confusing and unreadable
 
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rydods

Member for quite some time.
I love it! Absolutely love it! I'm completely excited about the future of it and the amount of time and money it will save me.

90% of my customers don't care, never cared and will never care about the quality of their logo/artwork. They just want it now and they want it free. They can do that part their selves for all I care. I'm done chasing my tail over creating amazing and quality artwork or tracking down vector files. Worse yet, getting them to pay a premium for it.

There's no money in graphic design anymore and I'm fine chopping it off my list of services.

I'm sure the sign "Painters" said the same thing about the vinyl plotters back in the day.
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
I've had customers send some AI graphics. It's a good starting off point and let's me know what font / colors they like. I rearrange the words and sizing and they see why human sign guy is better than AI sign bot.

You rather go back to them sketching it out on paper or faxing it to you? I'll use their crappy AI logo and clean up the text. It's better than the power point sign layouts. I think it's time for you to retire if you're so mad at how people do things now.
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
We had a customer who wanted a banner for labor day. He wanted it to say "free hotdogs" with two american flags on either side . We input that information into ai and got back a really cool graphic. We did have to clean up stars, but we essentially placed a flag from shutterstock on top of the image of the other flags and printed it. For a banner it was great.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
90% of my customers don't care, never cared and will never care about the quality of their logo/artwork. They just want it now and they want it free. They can do that part their selves for all I care. I'm done chasing my tail over creating amazing and quality artwork or tracking down vector files. Worse yet, getting them to pay a premium for it.
As the professional, any issues that crop up later on, I'm willing to bet would still be levied against you.

The industry that I have been a part of as cratered even moreso compared to signs, but I was still able to make it, I just didn't chase everyone for those services. If they were tire kickers, I didn't bother with it. Easier said (typed), and it took a good long bit to not worry about the tire kickers, but I was prouder of what I produced compared to trying to please everyone.

I'm sure the sign "Painters" said the same thing about the vinyl plotters back in the day.
The ones that I know still say it.

I have no problem with tech in of itself, I use it quite a bit and when it's just one person doing it all, it comes in handy. However, the problem that we have now is that people only know the high level abstraction and not what goes into that high level abstraction, so if if "AI" is a good launching pad for things, people don't know how to fix it, even if they were inclined to do so, which most aren't. Especially customer supplied.

We are going to see a drainage of knowledge in 1 or 2 generations of users. Even the users that do know better that use this high level abstraction have noticed regressions in their quality of output.

Now, yes, customers will de-value it for the majority. There will still be some that will hold higher value for quality work, but that pool and the pool of people that can deliver that will both have shrunk and as such be highly competitive.


It's a good starting off point and let's me know what font / colors they like.
They don't really need "AI" to convey what color/fonts that they want (and sometimes, the colors/fonts that they won't aren't exactly the best fit, why going to a professional that knows what they are doing matters). Unless people can't just handle what used to be a regular interaction.

You rather go back to them sketching it out on paper or faxing it to you?

Actually, if I had my way, they would come to see me and not fax it. However, here is the thing. It isn't so much rather or not it's still being done how it used to all the time, it's actually have that knowledge to know what's being abstracted when when the higher level abstraction fails or needs to be corrected, especially "professionals" are able to do so. I have seen so called "professionals" that are bound to not only abstraction, but in some cases, but vendor specific implementations of said abstractions. That isn't even with this "AI" nonsense.



Another big issue that I would also have with doing this for things like logos is, at least stateside, ownership of that design is the sticky point. I know some one here that have different prices for getting the design transferred over to the customer or it was made for the commission of a sign. Depending on a few things, may not have a leg to stand on really there. Especially if it's just whatever "AI" initially squirts out.

If it's for throw away stuff, doesn't matter, but this isn't going to be always for throwaway stuff. That's just how it will be normalized, after which when people won't be able to handle the entire workflow on their own, no bueno.
 

The Vector Doctor

Chief Bezier Manipulator
tracing the files can get pricey. Lots of shapes on some of these ai generated logos and no equivalent fonts to typeset
 

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