Living Wall Sign?

jfiscus

Map Wraster
This will be a first for me so I'm coming to all of you to hopefully answer an issue before it ever arises. We are doing studded dimensional letters protruding about 6" off of a living wall. This will be in an (interior) office space, but my concern is about humidity/moss/mold potential issues.

They'd like their logo/lettering cut out of a white material, so if there is a potential for it to start to turn green in the future I'd like to avoid that.

Are there any thoughts on any materials that might be better to use for this project? What ones to avoid?

I'm going there tomorrow to do a site survey to determine the best mounting procedure. Should be a fun project! Photo of the actual wall attached.
 

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The Yanki & The Brit

The Yanki & The Brit Signs and Radio Show
WOW! That looks like a place in Fort Worth area I was at a number of years ago....
Unless they don't have A/C or some sort of air movement equipment, cant see a problem myself. Aluminum doesn't rust, and anything with paint will attract mildew, unless the air is kept moving.
Are the plants watered mechanically? Will water be able to sit on top the letters or inside the cutouts?
There is some maintenance to this type of thing, and I can't imagine that place not having a cleaning crew.
Would seem to me, as long as the parts are rust proof, stainless or aluminum, Seems like a cool project.
I hope you post some pics when it's done.
 

JBurton

Signtologist
Seeing as how it's a living wall, I'd go for an option that would allow for easy mounting/unmounting. The customer obviously puts plenty of care into the wall, and will inevitably change out plans over time. Rather than worry with making the most permanent sign, I'd figure on something more end user friendly, as they would probably rather not pay you to come pull a letter at $50/hr just so they can replace a $20 fern($2 fern? IDK plant costs.).
Gemini has some cool studs with an allen key to lock the letter onto the stud... of course it depends on what substrate is actually back there for you to mount to.
 

MikePro

Member
treat it like an exterior sign, and you should be fine. mold/corrosion is a living thing too, but highly unlikely that will even be a factor unless you're making it out of paper-mache
 

Tessellate

New Member
We have done something like this before. We have a 150w laser in house so we reverse cut 1/2” white acrylic and mark the locations for pins.

Recently did a wall wrap there and they still look brand new. As mentioned they will require some cleaning here and there from water spots but the cast acrylic is rock solid.
 

Brando

New Member
I’d probably go with white acrylic. But I think you’ll have trouble taping up a pattern for installation.
 

jfiscus

Map Wraster
Not the best photos, but everything turned out awesome. We pin mounted the letters and welded the pins to rails (painted black). Hung the whole thing (around 2 pounds) by thin black wire off of 2 hooks at the top. We added adjustable legs to the back so that we could get it to sit flat with the uneven wall surface.
 

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Stacey K

I like making signs
Not the best photos, but everything turned out awesome. We pin mounted the letters and welded the pins to rails (painted black). Hung the whole thing (around 2 pounds) by thin black wire off of 2 hooks at the top. We added adjustable legs to the back so that we could get it to sit flat with the uneven wall surface.
I love it the concept of this, the sign looks great, good job!!!! Thank you for posting a finished pic!
 

JBurton

Signtologist
Not the best photos, but everything turned out awesome. We pin mounted the letters and welded the pins to rails (painted black). Hung the whole thing (around 2 pounds) by thin black wire off of 2 hooks at the top. We added adjustable legs to the back so that we could get it to sit flat with the uneven wall surface.
Huzzah! Good thinking on the adjustable legs.
 

Bly

Member
Nice. We did some lettering for a pharmacy that was meant to float in front of a bulkhead covered in long moss.
The letters were glued to a clear acrylic panel which dropped into a slot.

Your solution looks really neat.
 

jfiscus

Map Wraster
We're already on to our 2nd living wall sign.
Did a few things differently this time.
Pics below should explain a lot of the process for the curious. ;)

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Greg Kelm

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You should consider a mig or even better, a tig welder with gas shield. Some scrap leather to avoid the splatter on your routed parts is not a bad idea either. The final result looks really nice!
 

jfiscus

Map Wraster
You should consider a mig or even better, a tig welder with gas shield. Some scrap leather to avoid the splatter on your routed parts is not a bad idea either. The final result looks really nice!
Look at the 2nd image. This is a sacrificial set of letters.
The "real" letters were being painted while the others were attached to the framework getting welded together.

It seems no matter how well you think you cover it up weld spatter finds its way to the letters and discolors or damages them.
Since they're the exact same pattern we just popped the junk ones off and pitched them and painted the frame without worry of over-spray from either color.
After the last coat of paint we will glue them back together for install later this week.
 

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Greg Kelm

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Look at the 2nd image. This is a sacrificial set of letters.
The "real" letters were being painted while the others were attached to the framework getting welded together.

It seems no matter how well you think you cover it up weld spatter finds its way to the letters and discolors or damages them.
Since they're the exact same pattern we just popped the junk ones off and pitched them and painted the frame without worry of over-spray from either color.
After the last coat of paint we will glue them back together for install later this week.
I see it now. Was thinking that there has to be a better way to avoid all that, but your method make sense now.
 
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