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Perforated vinyl fail
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synergy_jim
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I remove the rear wipers. and tell them to never use them again/.....
Gino
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Just said this to a customer about 2 or 3 weeks ago and he said, do you know how hard it is to see out one of those windows when it's raining hard ??
Sooooo...... ?? Use your side view mirrors.
Just got a quick glance on that one.synergy_jim
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Just said this to a customer about 2 or 3 weeks ago and he said, do you know how hard it is to see out one of those windows when it's raining hard ??
Sooooo...... ?? Use your side view mirrors.
You answer should be " Do you want signage or do you want to see? "
rjssigns
Active Member
Just said this to a customer about 2 or 3 weeks ago and he said, do you know how hard it is to see out one of those windows when it's raining hard ??
Sooooo...... ?? Use your side view mirrors.
Yet they drive their 4 door sedan without a rear wiper in a torrential downpour and not even care.
Yikes, that does not look good! Now I'm glad I made the choice to laminate the window wrap I did on a van last summer. It was my first one. It had a super curvey back window, which did not make it easy to stretch the laminated perf over, but I got the job done. Wrapped the to side windows in the back as well. I did warn the Customer that the wiper sould do some damage, but left it up to him to make the choice to remove the wiper. Checked on him a couple months later and he said it was looking good. I should check on him again to see if he's used the wiper and how it's all looking. Thank you for sharing!
DesireeM
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If you could post his feedback here I'd be interested to know how it held up as well. We do a lot of bus windows and we always laminate the perf just for life/durability sake. Perf is not a very longterm product so we go out of our way to make sure it lasts as long as possible...trim back .5" from the window edge and use liquid edge seal but the bus windows are usually short term contracts and most other customers don't give us long-term feedback.
gabagoo
New Member
In defense of vehicles with wipers... If they put them on, they probably need them.
When I owned a mini van it was incredible how much crap was sucked onto the back window. My car virtually gets nothing on it.
Having said that I would say what Gino said.
another fail
I am desperate for help! I have another window perf fail. I didn't install this, my customer did. Here is what I know. I used Solvex brand perf and it is laminated with optically clear Arlon. I asked the installer if he used water or solution when installing the perf and he said "no". He also said the window was cold so they turned the heat on inside the cab of the truck to warm the windows from the inside and kept the heat on during installation. I have attached a pic (I think) of the end result. Any idea what could have caused this to happen?
I am desperate for help! I have another window perf fail. I didn't install this, my customer did. Here is what I know. I used Solvex brand perf and it is laminated with optically clear Arlon. I asked the installer if he used water or solution when installing the perf and he said "no". He also said the window was cold so they turned the heat on inside the cab of the truck to warm the windows from the inside and kept the heat on during installation. I have attached a pic (I think) of the end result. Any idea what could have caused this to happen?
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J Hill Designs
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customer install...thats what happened
Clem
New Member
I am desperate for help! I have another window perf fail. I didn't install this, my customer did. Here is what I know. I used Solvex brand perf and it is laminated with optically clear Arlon. I asked the installer if he used water or solution when installing the perf and he said "no". He also said the window was cold so they turned the heat on inside the cab of the truck to warm the windows from the inside and kept the heat on during installation. I have attached a pic (I think) of the end result. Any idea what could have caused this to happen?
just a thought, if the window was warm when it was installed, and that's laminated, then once the air cooled in the now sealed perforated areas the air would've contracted right? could the laminate be being sucked through the perforations and making contact with the glass?
DesireeM
New Member
That's the problem with a customer install...you now have no way to know if it was a material/fabrication fail or if it's an installer fail. The problem is that even the most honest of customers will lie to your face in order to avoid taking responsibility (or to save their ego in some cases).
Even if we could guess at why the perf failed it could be so many things....Maybe they didn't clean the window properly...maybe they cleaned it with something that reacts with the glue....you'll never know. Maybe they didn't crank the heat like they said. Maybe it was on crooked and they tried to peel it off and re-apply. Maybe they used a credit card or a sleeve to press it on and it wasn't enough pressure.
When a customer wants to do the install themselves I always tell them we WILL NOT make a new one for free if it fails. No guarantees, warantees or promises BECAUSE there's no way for us to deduce what went wrong therefore there's no way to fix it. I tell them they assume all responsibility.
Even if we could guess at why the perf failed it could be so many things....Maybe they didn't clean the window properly...maybe they cleaned it with something that reacts with the glue....you'll never know. Maybe they didn't crank the heat like they said. Maybe it was on crooked and they tried to peel it off and re-apply. Maybe they used a credit card or a sleeve to press it on and it wasn't enough pressure.
When a customer wants to do the install themselves I always tell them we WILL NOT make a new one for free if it fails. No guarantees, warantees or promises BECAUSE there's no way for us to deduce what went wrong therefore there's no way to fix it. I tell them they assume all responsibility.
Cold outside, warm glass....condensation seems like a real possibility.
Clem
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dlndesign
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Perf is a tricky one, I have done them laminated and un-laminated, but I am also in san diego, so down pours are not that likely and they seem to work well. It just depends on the geographic area and if the client even has the intention to take care of it. I always want to paint them the worst case before they sign off.
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