Trouble in paradise

No I didnt know anything about vectorized graphic art or the circle one you call raster art, or that I need an eps, pdf, ai or cdr file on a CD. And you dont know the first thing about the technology business I own either. When I called your competition gathering info on how to produce a specialty banner on tranlucent ripstop nylon 60" high which was quite common on the internet, the 30 yellow page ads I called referred me to someone else quickly, which took me down to 2 real fast. Seems alot of you are weak within your own business. This is not hate mail but it seems to me you all are tuting your own horns on this website about what you know. In two days I have gathered about as much info on the web, and know way more than your employee with you for 1 year. I am your customer and I am not stupid but just not educated in your field. I am willing to spend thousands of dollars to get what I want. Will you spend a small amount of time with me giving me the basics of what you want. And by the way I just got done searching google for vectorized art in a beach scene for 3 hours. I havent found any sample pics I could buy yet and download. I went through about 75 websites which most were about as vague as the 30 yellow page ads I called. I am piecing it all together and I am getting sharper by the minute, until I qualify for your greatness to build me some banners.
 

Cadmn

New Member
2 bites now . I bet freds got some beach scenes or at least access & he is in Fla also so trouble would you like to start fresh now after your rant ?
 

Techman

New Member
Seems like someone called a few shops looking to get something done. But, got a less than professional phone call taker who couldn't answer any questions because they sounded uninformed..

But this person is gettign educated in doing his own work and will soon do what he needed himself..
 

Fred Weiss

Merchant Member
Perhaps you should get in touch with a certain baker in British Columbia and between the two of you perhaps you can figure out how to build his signs and your banner. Or perhaps you might be a little less rude in your posturing and a little more forthcoming with what exactly you're seeking with a proof read for how you sound before striking the Submit Reply button.

In short, we don't know you and you don't know us. yet you seem to seek to start out by insulting us as a community. If you're seeking answers, ask questions that are both concise and precise along with being civil. We don't care about your yellow page tour and relating it to us has only resulted in a quick strike one and strike two call by the ump.

FYI, nylon banners are a genuine specialty and most shops get little or no call for them ... thus they will have only limited or no experience in dealing with them. This is not without good reason. Perhaps you should reevaluate your choice of materials. But if you really need nylon, then consider Googling nylon banners and see what comes up.

As to beach scenes and clipart ... where is it written that you can only use clipart as a resource? Or that it must be vector? If you cannot find what you want ... and Googling is a poor way to locate vectored clipart, then hire an artist to create what you want. It might run you a few hundred bucks, but it will save you many hours of searching for something that may not even exist.
 
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Bobby H

Member
I could be wrong, but I smell a troll.

He's willing to spend "thousands" but is looking to decorate that "thousands" costing product with some low cost clip art? Hmm.....
 

Cadmn

New Member
Techman said:
Seems like someone called a few shops looking to get something done. But, got a less than professional phone call taker who couldn't answer any questions because they sounded uninformed..

But this person is gettign educated in doing his own work and will soon do what he needed himself..
techman ever called a plumber needing to know about roto routering & try to get answers
dealt with this last friday
 

tinysigner

New Member
Or here's a thought. Just do like the majority of us had to . Learn to trace and vectorize. We all struggled in the beginning. Funny how things improve once you set your mind to getting it done yourself.
 
Guys, guys - To respond to Bobo is to give him credibility.

It is obvious that he chooses to hind behind an apron, so why bother. He says he has thousands, and says he is spending time - already learning more than deacdes of experience - he does not need us.

Ante Ya Phile'............................
 

Flame

New Member
Now you've done it

Dude, you don't know jack diddly squat about the sign biz. It's a cross between art and production. You might know some basic prices and color options, but the sign biz is complicated, and I take offense at you thinking you know it all. Sorry if some people can't help you, but generalizing the sign industry like that is a good way for NO ONE to give you any help. As far as you wanting translucent banner material, well, maybe not all of us can do it for you! Everyone specializes in something, and honestly translucent banners takes quite a specialist. Not every sign shop you call is going to have one.

Now, could I make you some translucent banners? Sure. Will I? NO! The wonderful part of owning your own business is the ability to choose your work, and I don't think I want your business. You could have posted that you were having lots of trouble finding this certain kind of banner, and would like help. But noooooo, you had to go make yourself sound like a freaking idiot and bash all the sign guys on here. You don't even know half of what the average sign guy learns in a day Dude. I admit, I may not know your business, but I never claimed I did. You did.

Since you're so smart, answer me this super simple question: what does CMYKLcLm stand for? Got that one? Let's try another one: What are the seven basic fluids you should keep in a sign shop? How about a little harder one: What's the proper ICC profile for printing on banners using a Mutoh Falcon printer? Or just a wee bit harder: What's ditherization and what do you use it for?

How about you just shut your trap, un-register yourself from Signs101, and leave this forum to good signmakers and maybe a few of their thankful customers?
 

Rick

Certified Enneadecagon Designer
Oh, I know this one:

What are the seven basic fluids you should keep in a sign shop?

Gin, Rum, Vodka, Triple Sec, Sweet & Sour, and Coke, yeah, I know that's 6 but add Beer if you are to lazy to make a Long Island Ice Tea....:wine-smi:
 

Flame

New Member
Rick said:
Oh, I know this one:

What are the seven basic fluids you should keep in a sign shop?

Gin, Rum, Vodka, Triple Sec, Sweet & Sour, and Coke, yeah, I know that's 6 but add Beer if you are to lazy to make a Long Island Ice Tea....

lol. I guess everyone has their own 7 basics, but those aren't mine.
 

Fred Weiss

Merchant Member
I normally would not comment as I am about to but how do you take someone seriously whose email address starts out as: Hopeigetrich@....

Drawing on my many years of watching TV shows about FBI and police profilers, I would guess that we are talking about a male between 17 and 25 years of age, an only child, not experienced in doing physical work and has not yet embarked on a meaningful career choice.
 

Mrs. Uneedasign

New Member
I can't believe anyone would take time to join and register a forum just to rant and rave! In all the time my husband has been making signs,never have we been asked about nylon banners.Maybe they are a thing of the past? We don't see any here on the west coast.
 

Flame

New Member
Fred Weiss said:
I normally would not comment as I am about to but how do you take someone seriously whose email address starts out as: Hopeigetrich@....

Drawing on my many years of watching TV shows about FBI and police profilers, I would guess that we are talking about a male between 17 and 25 years of age, an only child, not experienced in doing physical work and has not yet embarked on a meaningful career choice.

lol. Amen. Or just some dumb trouble maker that stumbled onto this forum. Seen 'em on other forums.
 
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Fred Weiss

Merchant Member
Rick said:
Oh, I know this one:

What are the seven basic fluids you should keep in a sign shop?

Gin, Rum, Vodka, Triple Sec, Sweet & Sour, and Coke, yeah, I know that's 6 but add Beer if you are to lazy to make a Long Island Ice Tea....:wine-smi:

Actually on of the best fluids for removing vinyl from substrates is rotgut tequila.
 

njsigns

New Member
You know, I'm sitting here contemplating even writing this. But here it goes... I read this guy's post, three times, because I didn't even know what he was trying to say (or who he was talking to) at first. Anyway, I guess it could have offended me, but it's the most obvious ploy to start everyone on a rant.

The thing about this post that makes me unhappy... He's already (while I'm writing) got 14 responses to his post! My point is ultimately this, I posted a logo a few weeks ago and got like 600 views, and only 8 responses. I was asking for legitimate help from the very people who are watching this post closely (the list at the bottom of this page - currently viewing this thread - you all know who you are).

I know I come to signs101 everyday, because it's a great place to learn, grow your business, learn about materials, installation methods... and hopefully make a few good friends along the way. I don't post often, when I do I hope my limited scope of knowledge can help someone. Maybe I'm selfish, but if you're going to put forth the effort to respond to something, I'd much rather you spend your time sharing in your knowledge. I'm sure there are others here who feel the same.

By the way, the other thread about typing... yeah 35 words a minute - took the test today! I failed!

Just my thoughts...

Gene
 
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