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Stacey K

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Ikarasu being right about the abuse of the temporary foreign worker program was never in question.

However, I was thinking about the issue in general. Someone mentioned the great replacement theory. I'm GenX and I remember at 16 we couldn't wait to get jobs. When I was 9 my parents bought an office supply in our small town. Mom hired me and I didn't really think much about it. I worked for them and was kind of lazy. But by the time I hit 16, I was ready to go out and get a job. Work ethic was something our parents kind of enforced. They expected it. Something happened though to our society. When I was a kid, my dad was a roofer. He also worked for a major oil refinery. When he was off on "long change" (switching from nights to days), he would roof houses. He loved having extra cash in his pocket. He made a lot of money being a blue collar plant operator and roofing houses in his spare time. In between him raising me and me having my own children, there was this generation..that showed up...the millenials and then the gen y?? those parents (with the help of the public education system) ended up coddling or doing something to the kids. I don't mean it was bad, but the work ethic changed. EXCEPT that, these kids go cry in the bathroom if you hurt their feelings. THis is SO ridiculously crazy to me. So I can understand why these illegals come in and "take" the jobs away from the teens.
This is problem that society placed on these kids by telling them they must go to college. When I went to college, it was HARD. But my youngest graduated college in 3 years and is working on her masters. She hasn't held many jobs and they've all been fairly easy jobs. When I worked in high school I was delivering pizzas. Imagine a 16 year old delivering pizzas these days.
I don't believe it's parents fault. I believe its conditioning from schools to push college. But not everyone is cut out for college.
The college thing is very true. Finally the high school my boys went to started pushing the trades mostly because of lack of skilled workers in the community. The local businesses are now donating equipment to the high school trade classes in hopes they can find employees.

In Sheboygan, the town I just moved to, the trades classes are EXCELLENT in the high schools. Bemis Mfg. donated an entire wing and several robots. We do have Bemis and Kohler company and there's quite a few skilled jobs at both those factories. I think it's great to see the local businesses and the schools working together to build on what the local needs of the job market are vs. just pushing college.
 
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Geneva Olson

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You keep going on about Jerome Powell (I assume because Trump does), but it's not like he's the god-king of the Federal Reserve, it's a board of (I believe) 12. If I remember correctly, 10 out of 12 on the board voted to keep the rate at what it is. You really think Trump knows better than every person on that board? Of course he wants it lowered, he wants nothing more in life than to look like a big, strong, smart boy. Probably a good thing they didn't lower it considering the dismal job report that just came out. And he just fired the head of the BLS because the numbers made him look bad. He's a pathetic child.
I get it. you hate trump.

No, I'm not goinng on about it because trump said. I'm going on about it because there's no reason to keep the interest rate at the level it's at. It's causing a stagnant housing market. and other things. The inflation rate has slowed AGAIN and is at the level it was supposed to be when Jerome Powell said it would need to be in order to drop the interest rate. I'm not partisan but Jerome Powell is.
 
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ikarasu

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Considering that they rigged the job report numbers under biden. But I'm guessing you would say that's a conspiracy theory. Just like russiagate. :confused:
Do they have proof? All I believe is innocent until proven guilty... Whether it's by a jury of your peers, or proof. Just like Garcia .. he may be guilty but he deserves the chance to state that. I'm glad he's back in America, btw! So much for Trump saying it was impossible.

It's just like Epstein. I think it's fairly obvious there's a good chance trump, and Clinton, and Prince Andrew, and a bunch of other higher ups are on the Epstein list.... Infact there's proof Trump's on it. Doesn't prove he's a pedo, but there's a good chance he is, and that's explain his avoidance of the files so much. But you don't see me running around saying he's a pedo / child molestor, do you?

Everyone deserves a chance to prove their innocence, whether it's something huge like child molestation, or something like fudging the job numbers.

If he has proof, let him release it... Otherwise until then, especially with how many lies come out of his mouth in a day, it's not a conspiracy theory... Just another baseless accusation by someone who doesn't like the numbers.
 

Snydo

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The great russiagate conspiracy that sent five Trump associates to prison as felons.
"If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime... A president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view – that too is prohibited." -Rober Mueller
 

Stacey K

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As far as the Epstein stuff...I don't think any president will ever fully release the files. Too many powerful people involved and probably many threats to their families if it gets released.
 

MikePro

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Do they have proof?
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...same goes for crime reporting from major Democratic cities. Release the numbers, that never included the major contributors, and then quietly update it late hoping that nobody notices.
 
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MikePro

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As far as the Epstein stuff...I don't think any president will ever fully release the files. Too many powerful people involved and probably many threats to their families if it gets released.
that, and i'm sure the concern is that many names are attached without anything having to do with certain accusasions. ...which was probably the game they were playing the whole time.
Attach as many names as possible to the crimes of a few, and blackmail every single one of them.
 
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ikarasu

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As far as the Epstein stuff...I don't think any president will ever fully release the files. Too many powerful people involved and probably many threats to their families if it gets released.
What about the fact that the FBI redacted Trump's name?

The constant blaming Obama and Biden for the files saying it's a democratic hoax... Saying he was never told his name was in it even though it was proven he was told.... Etc.


The one good thing about Trump is he doesn't take shit from anyone, I think if one politician would release stuff no matter the consequences... He'd be the one to do it. Half his campaigning was on releasing it .. which is why it's weird.

If all the powerful people got pointed out to be child rapists, they couldn't do any harm. Look at Harvey Weinstein, pdiddy... Heck, Epstein himself...

There are ways to do it, I think it's more too many Democrats and too many Republicans are on the list.
 

ikarasu

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...same goes for crime reporting from major Democratic cities. Release the numbers, that never included the major contributors, and then quietly update it late hoping that nobody notices.
Then if it's illegal, and the above is proof, arrest them. Or if it's not illegal.. fire them. And if it's the same guy trump just fired... He should have fired him the moment they got into office, not when a bad report goes out that trump doesn't like, as anyone can agree the optics in that's pretty bad.
 

MikePro

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What about the fact that the FBI redacted Trump's name?

The constant blaming Obama and Biden for the files saying it's a democratic hoax... Saying he was never told his name was in it even though it was proven he was told.... Etc.


The one good thing about Trump is he doesn't take shit from anyone, I think if one politician would release stuff no matter the consequences... He'd be the one to do it. Half his campaigning was on releasing it .. which is why it's weird.

If all the powerful people got pointed out to be child rapists, they couldn't do any harm. Look at Harvey Weinstein, pdiddy... Heck, Epstein himself...

There are ways to do it, I think it's more too many Democrats and too many Republicans are on the list.
russia russia russia!
Stop reading NatGeo headlines & act like you've been here before. its all smoke & mirrors.
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
Do they have proof? All I believe is innocent until proven guilty... Whether it's by a jury of your peers, or proof. Just like Garcia .. he may be guilty but he deserves the chance to state that. I'm glad he's back in America, btw! So much for Trump saying it was impossible.

It's just like Epstein. I think it's fairly obvious there's a good chance trump, and Clinton, and Prince Andrew, and a bunch of other higher ups are on the Epstein list.... Infact there's proof Trump's on it. Doesn't prove he's a pedo, but there's a good chance he is, and that's explain his avoidance of the files so much. But you don't see me running around saying he's a pedo / child molestor, do you?

Everyone deserves a chance to prove their innocence, whether it's something huge like child molestation, or something like fudging the job numbers.

If he has proof, let him release it... Otherwise until then, especially with how many lies come out of his mouth in a day, it's not a conspiracy theory... Just another baseless accusation by someone who doesn't like the numbers.
Yes they have proof of the job numbers fumbles. They found them during Biden's presidency.
Yes, they have proof of the russian hoax. If you've been watching Tulsi Gabbard, she's come out with undeniable proof that Russia did not interfere in our elections and the whole conspiracy was created by Hillary Clinton. Comey, Brennan and Clapper have all been brought in for questioning. The emails were found in a burn bag. Obama was also complicit. They are all being hauled in for questioning. It's bigger than the Watergate Scandal.

Where's your proof that Trump was on the list? I can tell you that if he were on the list, Hillary and others would have released that "list".
Trump isn't the one holding up "the list". An obama appointed judge is holding "the list" up. The reason for the "quotes" is because from what I understand, there's no "list". There was never a "list". Someone has compiled evidence of people who have visisted the island. Trump didn't visit the island. He was on Epstein's plane 7 times. But apparently Clinton went to the island 28 times. Dan Bongino has a story for that one too.

As far as numbers go: Biden admin was flubbing the job numbers during his entire presidency. They were counting part time jobs and job movement as increases.
But it's clear you don't believe anything I say. and you actually ignore what proof I do provide for you. If you don't believe me, go google the information I just gave you.

If I don't believe YOU, that's what I do..
 
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Geneva Olson

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The great russiagate conspiracy that sent five Trump associates to prison as felons.
"If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime... A president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view – that too is prohibited." -Rober Mueller

 
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verified revisions by Stanford.
you're welcome.
GxSquRxaIAE9oc_


...same goes for crime reporting from major Democratic cities. Release the numbers, that never included the major contributors, and then quietly update it late hoping that nobody notices.
Revisions you say?

"Revisions for May and June were larger than normal. The change in total nonfarm payroll employment
for May was revised down by 125,000, from +144,000 to +19,000, and the change for June was revised
down by 133,000, from +147,000 to +14,000. With these revisions, employment in May and June
combined is 258,000 lower than previously reported. "

Much higher (and lower in job creation) than anything on your verified Stanford chart.

From BLS.gov.
You're welcome.
 
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