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windows 11 PUSH...big time!

visual800

Active Member
A lot of you know I despise updates, I dont update my iphone and I stopped updating my computers back in windows 98 second edition. Nothing like the feeling of your stuff on your computer to STOP working because you updated.

We have all be brainwashed into thinking "updates are for security reasons, to protect you from malicious attack"s....BS! microsoft IS the malicious activity. I have been ignoring windows 11 updates probably for most of this year. I can no longer shut my computer down without making the choice to update and shut down or restart and update. Now I get flash ups on my screen saying windows 10 will no longer be supported! Like thats a threat? Supported by what? Why do any of us need any support by microsoft. They are really pushing windows 11 hard and Im sure its for no good reason

I guess the worst thing that can happen is upplug it from internet and use another computer to surf
 

White Haus

Not a Newbie
Yep. I finally gave in this week. Took my main personal workstation an hour or so and voila, I'm on W11 and Microsoft can finally shut up.

I get where you're going, but I have more important things to worry about than what reasons MS has for forcing me to upgrade to W11.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
Updates are a double edge sword, anything that brings about change (be it for better or worse) brings instability along with it.

Now, as to if updates are necessary or not. Nothing is error free. While your workflow may not bring about those errors, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. There were people complaining about Ai and Draw bugs that eventually got fixed that I never dealt with in my workflow. That isn't even security issues and yes, there are those issues, the fact that we seem to have quite the few recently that dealt with a lot of user data (our data) should illustrate that point.

However, on the flip side updates, particularly with Windows and Mac, come with a lot of bloat. And that is why people seem to think they aren't necessary (and that bloat isn't).

As to why, I can only speculate based on all that I'm reading, and most of it is telemetry in the form of what people are erroneously calling "AI" and in particular agentic "AI". MS and most other software companies have ceased to be software companies and are data harvesting companies. Which isn't too surprising as a lot of software out there is 30+ yrs old, it's hard to win people over in upgrading using the old model and as such, need that continue revenue stream (which leads to less innovation and more iteration).

I get where you're going, but I have more important things to worry about than what reasons MS has for forcing me to upgrade to W11.

While I can understand (and wish we could be that way), this is partly why we are here with ads on everything (including refrigerators, why the hell is it connected to the internet anyway? I can only be at the frig so long playing Doom on it). This is why everything is SaaS filled with ads (regardless if the software/hardware was paid for or not). And it isn't only MS that is doing this. Unfortunately, once it gets accepted for one, typically the flood gates are open for the rest and it's hard to get back what was lost at that point.

i went the route of having a separate computer for the internet browsing and another for designing signs and printing. less stressful.

Given that most software requires some form of internet connectivity, having that separation isn't quite the same as it once was when everything didn't have a store connected to it or having certain functionality connected to it. Even more so, if using something that is subscription based (which most are getting that way). Even Affinity isn't devoid of needing some internet connectivity for something outside of just online activation (which is another issue, but that is moot at this point), I do believe store, syncing etc while trivial compared to other features that not everyone may use, still are features that require online access.
 
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