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Suggestions Windows XP is Dead.
- Thread starter Attila Nagy
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Smoke_Jaguar
Man who touches printers inappropriately.
For the most part, totally true. Serial adapters are totally a thing, and you can get them for almost nothing. Software is where the pain can lie. Sometimes it can be worth rebuilding an XP machine if it means saving a few thousand bucks on a machine that is already on the short list for replacement.
Attila Nagy
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Still don't get it. There is no need to have Windows XP, Ever.
I almost never disagree with you 2. HOWEVER I might confess that if I go over to the corner of the shop that
has 5/or 6 Roland engravers & metazas there is a 20 year old laptop running XP (if will blow the dust off it tomorrow)
if all someonecwants to do is run an ancient version of old Roland software or a rip WHY NOT?
It doesn’t need to see the internet. For all it knows bill clinton. Just got elected. ( or maybe George W)
I am not a complete Luddite, I can switch one wire and feed any of these machines from ASPIRE.
point is the older stuff still works
if I open my cabinet I have installation media for just about every thing going back to do’s 3.3 (disk images on those new writable cd drives)
has 5/or 6 Roland engravers & metazas there is a 20 year old laptop running XP (if will blow the dust off it tomorrow)
if all someonecwants to do is run an ancient version of old Roland software or a rip WHY NOT?
It doesn’t need to see the internet. For all it knows bill clinton. Just got elected. ( or maybe George W)
I am not a complete Luddite, I can switch one wire and feed any of these machines from ASPIRE.
point is the older stuff still works
if I open my cabinet I have installation media for just about every thing going back to do’s 3.3 (disk images on those new writable cd drives)
Attila Nagy
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My problem is, People giving away perfectly good working machines, and buying cheap rubbish, just because they have been miss leaded. And I do not need more cutters or routers, 
Smoke_Jaguar
Man who touches printers inappropriately.
The Oce Arizona I have runs XP for the control system. No reliable way to go to a newer version. Always edge cases.
We had a large client who bought a biessemeyer cnc in 1994. it booted off 1.44 floppies, ran dos 3 in Italian. It took an auto cad (I don’t remember what version) file exported as .def)
I still keep in touch with tony the auto cad guy they hired ( he had just graduated from NJIT) 30 years later.
I still keep in touch with tony the auto cad guy they hired ( he had just graduated from NJIT) 30 years later.
Attila Nagy
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You Should just say: "I do not know reliable way..." because someone does.
Smoke_Jaguar
Man who touches printers inappropriately.
When dealing with hardware that existed for basically one OS generation, drivers are going to be crazy specific. Already made an image of the drive on the Oce for backup sake and will probably convert it to a solid-state HDD for reliability sake. At best, an OS 'upgrade' might be shoe-horning Windows Vista on the thing at a huge hit to reliability (and one could argue that it would be a downgrade). Getting 64-bit drivers would basically be impossible, so would kneecap you on any current OS. Embedded systems be like that.
I am definitely going to scope out the system interface where it talks to the printer. The Scitex printers were fascinating, but the OS seemed to be somewhat custom.
If using an old vinyl cutter or something that just speaks HPGL over a serial connection, the operating system is almost a non-issue as long as you can generate the code and stream it to the port.
I am definitely going to scope out the system interface where it talks to the printer. The Scitex printers were fascinating, but the OS seemed to be somewhat custom.
If using an old vinyl cutter or something that just speaks HPGL over a serial connection, the operating system is almost a non-issue as long as you can generate the code and stream it to the port.
you can't always do that.
my oldest stratasys 3d printer uses something like an 80 gb pata drive.
i keep a spare or 2 on the shelf. they are getting harder to find.
I WOULD BE REALLY SURPRISED if you were able to get that old firmware to recognize an ssd with GPT partition
my suggestion would be, buy a handful of "rebuilt" of the largest size that machine recognizes.
BE SURE you have a disk image you can restore and have it function
you might well be able to find a way around the SSD thing, but, aren't you getter off saving your strength for the battles you HAVE TO fight?
Texas_Signmaker
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Attila Nagy
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What Version of Flexi is it?
Flexi7 can Run on Windows 7 32bit. Issues with Rip/Print on 64bit.
Flexi8 works with no issues on any Windows7 systems.
since. version10.5 can be used on Windows10 or 11 as well.
I run CASmate on Windows 10 32bit computers. Many of my Clients do not want to learn Flexi neither Enroute.
Texas_Signmaker
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Flexi 8. Production manager won't run right
Smoke_Jaguar
Man who touches printers inappropriately.
Version locking is usually what locks people into an older OS. Lifetime licenses on production software is basically an endangered species these days as it is, and even then, you tend to not get newer versions as they come out with one. Not everyone wants to pay for perpetual subscriptions either, so sometimes you're put in the situation of having to run old software on an old platform to avoid paying for a software upgrade that will yield nothing except the ability to run on a newer OS as far as you're concerned.
Attila Nagy
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It does not work on Windows10. but I have it installed on many Windows 7 computers for Cut and Rip/Print as well.
Texas_Signmaker
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Oh yeah maybe it's 7.