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Looks like the low bid got the job. Ice storms don't damage professional work unless a tree falls on it.

What is becoming of this trade?

Whoever did the original one really did need rehab.

He's lucky. Some of those Walmart gals are beyond fixing with beer goggles.

My guess is that the move wasn't in the contract. I don't care for ADT for other reasons but if you took a salesguy's word for something instead of reading the contract you were asking for it. Nor is it their fault that you want to move to a location that they can't service.

When is this dumb fad going to burn out anyway? At least the old time flames had a design element to them, these flame jobs just look like the vehicle is burning. How did that get to be appealing?

Yep, way over exposed and many (most?) pieces didn't go through his hands. Must be nice.

Fascinating. I'm still working on a way to install 12" letters on a 8" sign.

Ya'll are missing the big picture. Some sign artist slaved to capture the "economy look" so the right folks would call.

There seems to be a lot of that going around here too, maybe everywhere. They either work for giggles or they cut enough corners to make a small profit. Since I'm doing neither I'm not worried about it. My life doesn't depend on this business, it's been good for 26 years but it seems like for...

I can't eat the stuff, it honestly makes me feel ill. I lived in the south and had the real deal, no way is that stuff authentic. I'm not even sure it's chicken!

I guess I'll be the evil one to wonder out loud what some people are doing in the sign/graphics business. We all are naturally better at some things, why not pick what suits you as a profession? I guess the computer age has changed this somewhat, you used to have to sling a brush somewhat...

There's always a fine line in this kind of business. I told a long time customer's employee that we didn't do that kind of work when she started sending me her signs designs, they looked terrible to me (it was a bit more diplomatic than that but...). Reputations are a hard thing to change. Well...

That's a good point, put it on a CD. That way you can exchange money for art instead of sending them the art and hoping for payment.

If they just want some clip art I'll add it on for a fee. If they want to then use that as a logo, it's fine with me, I have no invested interest. If they want me to send them artwork, we get back to the fee thingy, which equals what I charge for logos.

That's why I have cookies blocked. If a site needs, them I leave, unless I'm ordering.

I nip those in the bud by telling them that we don't do the cheapest work in town. One gal asked me "why"? I guess she thought everyone was the cheapest in town.

I'll bet he charges at least 50 bucks just to show up. But a plumber (or anyone) with that kind of spare time is a bad sign.

It's almost forgivable for someone unaccustomed to business, or life in general, but Friday I get a call from a long time (dumped her a year ago) customer saying they wanted a design for a new directory. Could I give it some thought and put something together? "Sure, but there's a fee for...

That's because Tony Soprano hasn't caught ya yet.:smile: