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What about laminating the 3mm brushed gold to 1/4" Black Sintra?

Another consideration is to get a better idea of the sight line distances and determine just how far away the average viewer may be seeing the sign from. It seems like the photo originally shown is the worst case scenario from as far back in the mall as one could get.

My only quibble with your concepts are that in an effort to beef up the weights, the grace and intended modernity of using a lighter, extended version of Helvetica is lost and the layouts seem really dated.

We have a winery client whose preferred look is 1/2" clear acrylic with flame polished edges and reverse mounted prints and no visible fasteners. These people's wine is about $50 per bottle on average. They don't care about cheaper, they care about impressing people enough to sell that caliber...

I believe that process is called pad printing. Large blocks of highly conformable silicone are used to to burn the imprint of the image onto and then the item to be printed is aligned and pressed into the block.

So you're another one who just ignored everything that has been posted already about the project and the specifics of it to make yet another unrelated point that ignores the facts? I didn't make up the details of the project or how it got handled. It most certainly is a real world example...

Ooh... that really hurts coming from a guy who used to post 30-40 times a day when you were Texas_signmaker and now 20-30 times a day under your new identity. Nice straw man argument and attempt at an insult. Is that really the best you can Do? Stick to the shallow end of the pool, son...

Then we're in the same boat. I only shared my project story to introduce a real world example of human nature or the vagaries of some client's decision making processes influencing a perfectly normal situation. How doing that took on another life and got away from its original premise is...

If we want to have a purely semantical argument, then maybe your point applies, but to me the entire premise of "tiered" pricing is something you do in the beginning of the process by offering several different options in order to ascertain what a potential client's comfort zone and expectations...

THERE WERE NO OPTIONS TO TIER IN THIS PROJECT! What part of my posts did you not read about them calling and talking with us multiple times after receiving the quotes and saying that the pricing was very fair and well within their budget expectations and plans? Or the same conversations with...

I appreciate you staying on top of the particulars of THIS project. We use a tiered approach all the time on projects where the client isn't forthcoming on their budget, is uncertain of their desired durability expectations or aesthetic preferences, etc. The difference between a 54"x150'...

Are you able to answer how that method applies to the specific examples listed? It feels like you and others are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole but never answer how you'd quote such a project. Your client is unhappy with the quality of the materials and workmanship of the wraps...

So a client comes to you with an interior graphics project that calls for metal faced, 1" thick dimensional foam letters stud mounted on textured walls, a few instances of diecut vinyl letters going on textured walls, 3'x4' clear acrylic panels with text on them and MBS standoffs and needing two...

Except that in this case, the client knew exactly what they wanted in terms of quality, material options and durability expectations. I agree that the thread has gone off the rails, but after making a simple observation and real life example about the need to NOT ignore human nature or less...

I didn't "dislike" your post, I disagreed with the solutions you were offering. You didn't say to just put one screw in the top center, you said this: "I would also screw the poly to the aluminum box once everything is in place so it doesn't move." Instead of taking it personally and getting...

We do excellent work "not as I tell anyone" but by the photographic proof of it and the thousands of fully satisfied customers who tell us that we do excellent work. We'll see who ended up with the project at some point. We don't obsess over lost projects. I've got a folder full of quotes that...

Those could all be possibilities in other cases, but in THIS case not likely. The cow could also jump over the moon, but not likely. The client has its own art department, provided mock ups of EXACTLY what was to be produced and was quite clear on the parameters, timeline and scope of the...

It provokes mistrust and signals that your quotes aren't well researched or consistent. If any bid is open to interpretation and manipulation, why spend any time on putting one together to begin with? Customers need to know that your quoting process is accurate to begin with, not just when...

Absolutely nothing. They initially called us and asked about our interest and availability. We went to their location in under 48 hours from that call, took photos, measurements, met with the principle decision makers, took notes, discussed timelines, etc. While there they kept hammering on the...

Which? You reminding me about the reality of ours and all other businesses who bid on projects or losing the project after being led along a bit by the manager? We go into every bid with the confidence that our pricing is well researched for what our local market will bear if people are...