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Fun with Vectorization
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The Vector Doctor
Chief Bezier Manipulator
Except yours truly
The image in the original post is not something I would even call a "logo." It's graphics wrapped around a painted illustration. That sort of thing does not lend itself to being reproduced in small sizes, like in a little 1 column black and white newspaper ad.
I agree with the comments of others that not everything has to be vector-based. Nevertheless such artwork must be created in a sufficiently high level of native resolution to be useful in a variety of purposes. This sort of thing could be a mix of raster and vector (vectors for the type and raster for the illustration).
Still, such artwork limits the customer in some ways. You can't cut it out of single color of vinyl like you can with most true logos.
With logo design less is definitely more. When I design logos I always make the finished "master" version 100% vector-based. I also try to make it where it can be produced with a single color. Ultimately that can save the customer a lot of money on print costs and make the finished graphic far more versatile. It's very easy to take a vector-based image into Photoshop and cheese it up with all the bevels, drop shadows, lens flares and other junk. It's stupid to design a logo in Photoshop and then try to take it into the vector realm afterward. Sadly, so many amateur graphic designers passing themselves off as professionals keep doing it anyway.
I agree with the comments of others that not everything has to be vector-based. Nevertheless such artwork must be created in a sufficiently high level of native resolution to be useful in a variety of purposes. This sort of thing could be a mix of raster and vector (vectors for the type and raster for the illustration).
Still, such artwork limits the customer in some ways. You can't cut it out of single color of vinyl like you can with most true logos.
With logo design less is definitely more. When I design logos I always make the finished "master" version 100% vector-based. I also try to make it where it can be produced with a single color. Ultimately that can save the customer a lot of money on print costs and make the finished graphic far more versatile. It's very easy to take a vector-based image into Photoshop and cheese it up with all the bevels, drop shadows, lens flares and other junk. It's stupid to design a logo in Photoshop and then try to take it into the vector realm afterward. Sadly, so many amateur graphic designers passing themselves off as professionals keep doing it anyway.
Really, I think it looks pretty good for $35.
The Vector Doctor
Chief Bezier Manipulator
Communication is key. Some people here think that this looks fine for $35 while others say it should have been a $200+ job if they wanted it to look good. That is the big problem. If you shop on price you never know what you will get. Had I wanted/taken the job and quoted $200 the customer obviously would have turned me down saying someone will do it for $35
TyrantDesigner
Art! Hot and fresh.
That is the pickle ... for $35 it looks good ... obviously not the quality I would want to give my customer .. but in a hurry, that would work for temporary signage if the customer wanted to wait for good high quality reproduction.
Personally I wouldn't have even shopped around for it for anything less than $150 ... too many people would do the alien sheep thing for less than that ... also it doesn't take much to do 4 or 6 decent flesh layers on J.C.'s flesh tone ... one little splotch on the forehead for a highlight would make me ask for my money back. Also, I would have asked the customer how steadfast to the original art they were before beginning ... it always suprizes me how many people ask you for artwork that can only be achieved with a photoshoot but don't want to pay for it because you have photoshop ... let alone doesn't want to pay for the art fee to make that non-photoshoot image look even close to one. For about $50 you could have gotten someone off of Modelmayhem.com in your area to dress up like J.C. holding a sheep, snap off a few pictures for skin tone reference if no actual vector reference and you're 3/4 of the way there.
nashvillesigns
Making America great, one sign at a time.
35 dollars at 6-10 hours? i hope your still making money, doc....
The Vector Doctor
Chief Bezier Manipulator
Huh? I did not quote it or have the opportunity to do so. As I mentioned in the my first post, I would never have taken the job. If they want to take on that kind of work for $35 they are welcome to do so. As you can see it did nothing but make the other company look bad.
TyrantDesigner
Art! Hot and fresh.
In college I ended up playing a lot with vector, with the use of opacity, you can almost get an etherial look with enough objects. I spent an entire semester doing nothing but portraits using overlapping 50% opacity objects ... lovely when printed as 4'x4' prints.
not everything NEEDS to be vectorized ... but it does have good results if used properly.
natedawg9640
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I think it looks great for the price of $35. for $35, I wouldn't deliver anything better.agreed that if it were me, i woulda ran the center through alien skin blowup or something like that, reset the ring and text in vector and printed the thing.
JTBoh
I sell signage and signage accessories.
The thing that irked me the most was the fact that they advertised a high quality vector of an image for the cost of $35.00. They even posted examples; the level of detail that was in this vs. the examples they provided was very different. False advertising? Yes... but we should have known better. By the way, we ended up getting our money back; the owner of the business we contacted was disappointed in the image as well, and agreed with me on the points I made.
Our GA offered to work on it; we lucked out and recently found one that actually enjoys working in AI in his spare time. We give him a hard time, hence the jokes about us being slavedrivers/sending him to the dungeon/forcing him to work on his holiday weekend, ect. I also took him to AC for the USSC expo and tried to get him to drink copious amounts of beer with me, unsuccessfully... it all balances out.
Our GA offered to work on it; we lucked out and recently found one that actually enjoys working in AI in his spare time. We give him a hard time, hence the jokes about us being slavedrivers/sending him to the dungeon/forcing him to work on his holiday weekend, ect. I also took him to AC for the USSC expo and tried to get him to drink copious amounts of beer with me, unsuccessfully... it all balances out.
Colin
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I feel sorry for the person who wasted all of their time on this for $35, and then you had the audacity to demand your money back! You clearly wanted this task (which takes considerable time) done for a fee that nobody could earn a living at, or worse, you want it done for FREE. Next time, let people know what your expectations are so we can all give you a wide berth.
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