I don't understand why anyone would buy a Mutoh
Because they're cost effective and the print quality is fantastic, maybe? Call me crazy but that's why we got ours.I don't understand why anyone would buy a Mutoh
I may be off on this info but here goes:
1) I would go larger on the printer - 54"
Reason being, you may find not all vendors carry media for the 48" or not all the media you want to use is available in 48"
2) If you are going to be wrapping ATV's snowmobiles, motorcycles and so on you are probably going to need to use convex.
I'm not sure how much this runs but I'd bet it's more than 3951. You might want to find that out.
3) Have you tried subbing out? If not you may want to give it a try. Here are a few reasons:
a) The learning curve is going to cost you
b) You may find whatever vendor you pick to be very helpful with what materials to use and so on
c) Do you have a clean room for this setup? If not you're going to need one.
d) Did the wrap kit include the software to run the equipment? If not add a few grand to your total
e) Do you or the person that will be running these machines have any design experience? Or knowledge of these machines?
f) Do you have the templates for these vehicles?
g) In the end it's not just about print & cut - there's way more to it.
4) Promotional wraps (discounted or free) I would assume you are making money on the backend somewhere - not that it's any of my business. We sign people don't like hearing stuff is going to be free - just saying
Anyway, I would do as much research as possible before you buy anything.
If you use the search feature on this site you will probably find answers to all your questions and more.
Best of luck
I don’t want to know anything. You do.
Your first post seemed legit, until you spoke later on in other posts about the cutter you already have and the 1000 yards of vinyl you have [which equates to about 6 rolls or so] is nothing…. and no mention of these things or that you even work anywhere, let alone have software or experience and then you want to waltz in here and get all kinds of information for free. You talk the talk, but you hardly understand it and you my friend sound a bit peculiar and a little too defensive to be on the up & up.
You made mention that you aren’t in the wrap business and never will be, but your profile says 100% the opposite… so what gives with all the false information ?? Do we believe what you said to get in here or believe what you’re telling us now ??
I have no worry about competition with you or anybody else, so I have no idea why you would think I care about you or your business plan… especially since you’re 3,000 miles away.
You want us all to open up and pour our hearts and sole into your answers, but you are remaining so elusive, I have no idea why anyone would want to help you. Can you tell me why you are being so cryptic ?? Are you telling us everything ??
Then again, you tell us you’re not interested in making money…. and then you come back and tell us you are, but indirectly…. Whadafug is that chit ?? You sell 1,000’s of T-shirts, make no mention of that equipment in your profile, but make no indication if you sub them out or not. So, you either are lying through your teeth to get in here and pick our brains…. or you’re lying about your plans. I for one could care less what you buy or what your reasons are for needing this stuff, but to falsely represent yourself on so many levels is why I questioned your profile……
If this isn’t positive enough for you….. sorry ‘bout that.
We're not a tshirt company and would never have the capacity or staff to do what these established factories provide for us.
Yet from many of your posts in this thread, it seems obvious to me and others that you have no plans to ever play the role of professional sign maker or any other graphics specialty. You simply do not find it convenient or satisfactory to obtain what you need from a professional outsource.I am, was or want to be in the sign making profession.
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Great point on the media size. I'll research and see what they carry at our local supplier. Can you explain why convex may be needed for rec vehicles?
I did a quick search and found this:
Try searching on the site and I'm sure you'll find more info.
From my basic understanding (I never had to use the stuff) regular vinyl is not going to hold up on the plastic used on these vehicles.
I've priced subbing it out and the quote came back at $6.00 sqft. 3x the inhouse materials cost and having to wait longer for production and shipping.
Were they retail or wholesale?
I'm sure if you do a search in our merchant member section you'll probably find someone that can help.
But I do like the hands off advantages. Is it worth it? Not sure.
If you don't have experience with the equipment - yes it's well worth it. Why dish out all that capital when you can outsource? Like cdiesel said - if you can outsource shirts why not printing?
Remember the printer doesn't maintain itself - factor in maintenance cost. If you outsource the stuff you don't have to worry about any of that.
We don't currently have a clean room, but we do have plenty of space in our warehouse to setup a vinyl room.
You are going to need a clean production area and if you ever intend to install any of these prints a clean area is a must. Remember to add the cost of building out this clean room to the cost of your equipment, software & supplies.
I personally have many years of design experience with the whole Adobe CS3 suite, including a lot of vector work. And as I've said before I do have experience with a basic SW plotter for several years.
It's a start, but remember designing for a vehicle wrap is much different than designing for a flat surface or your typical prints - much different.
Again, thanks for the info. This is what i'm after and it's been very helpful. I do understand there will be a learning curve. There always is and EVERYONE on this forum has gone through it. I feel with existing design experience and basic plotter experience I'm not starting at square 1. But still have much to learn.
As you've noted there is a fair amount of back and forth about what you can and can't do with our PrismJET VJ48. We hear many objections from competitors that are simply not true. As Heather probably told you already, we have the 48” printer as an exclusive in North America. Other Mutoh dealers cannot sell it. Perhaps this is why there’s so much disinformation about the product.
The assertion that you can't find ecosolvent print media less than 54" wide is one of the sillier statements we hear from these folks.
Fact number one. We have hundreds of 48" printers in the field, so we stock a wide variety of media for this printer.
Fact number two. There are also 30" printers in the field that need and use even smaller ecosolvent print media. So there is plenty of print media available that's 50" and less.
For a quick peek at our range of print media for the 48" PrismJET, click here. We have over 100 options for this printer including 4 different brands of 2mil cast vinyls suitable for wrapping vehicles; even snowmobiles.
Feel free to give me a call if you have any other questions.