I met OP years ago on another board, and we became friends right off. We came from simular backgrounds, growing up wise, and Ive always respected Joe for his love of life, his outlook, and standing up for himself and what he believes in. Joe gets alot of guff from people, but almost all of it is good natured and laughing with him, not at him. I can tell I'm not the only one here that thinks that way. Good friends is what its all about.