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victor bogdanov

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I call BS on this.

I don't think they are being totally transparent with their graphs.


"An immediate answer as to why so many people were without power remains unknown, however, it is believed to be tied to storms moving through along with the excessive heat warning issued for the Houston area."

probably doing blackouts on a small scale to see how capable they are
 

Notarealsignguy

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Rolling blackouts are nothing new or out of the ordinary. Maybe in Texas now that have tricked more people into moving there but IIRC, we had them in Trenton and other areas in the northeast I lived during high demand. The way to avoid is was for everyone to cut their power usage but in Texas, you can't tell anyone what to do.
There is nothing wrong with older people in government. They aren't ditch diggers and in that sort of position, experience counts. The new blood has proven themselves to be pretty stupid and more concerned with their popularity than they are with governing. I could only imagine that clown show if it were all new blood.
 

victor bogdanov

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Rolling blackouts are nothing new or out of the ordinary.
Might be a problem pushing electric cars with no clear plan to improve the grid and power generation capacity?

Part of the problem here in TX is there isn't much wind when it's extremely hot, no wind = all those green energy windmills are useless when they're needed most
 

Notarealsignguy

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Might be a problem pushing electric cars with no clear plan to improve the grid and power generation capacity?

Part of the problem here in TX is there isn't much wind when it's extremely hot, no wind = all those green energy windmills are useless when they're needed most
It has nothing to do with electric cars. Is there anything in your life that isn't rooted in some sort of bullshit? You sound like you survived 3 years by eating potatoes grown in Chernobyl.
 
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Texas_Signmaker

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I don't think they are being totally transparent with their graphs.


"An immediate answer as to why so many people were without power remains unknown, however, it is believed to be tied to storms moving through along with the excessive heat warning issued for the Houston area."

probably doing blackouts on a small scale to see how capable they are
No, your are making things up out of thin air. Coming on here saying that someone is warning you about rolling blackouts. No one is saying that. Tons of people on these forums are from TX and Houston, so don't be an idiot.
 

GAC05

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This was normal for us for the longest time. Power would go out for an hour at a time more than once a day. Most of the generating power was built by the Navy, they had names for each unit and we had daily reports of their health and happiness. Most everyone who could afford it had a generator at home & work. Part of it was typhoons smashing the grid (stll on poles) every few months. Once Gov Guam got a few more plants built and some of the older ones upgraded the rolling blackouts eased up and stopped for the most part. We are heading back into trouble with demands for power outpacing new plants. Nothing to do with electric cars - think it is social networking that is stressing the system - all kinds of gear being used, charged, or cooled.
 

rossmosh

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Texas's grid issues are not EV related. They are corruption related. It's really that simple. Anyone that did even 30 minutes of research about how Texas' grid is setup would sit down and say "Well, that's pretty stupid. I'm glad my state isn't like that."
 
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Johnny Best

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This post is 3 years old and a lot has changed for electric cars, now it’s electric bikes and scooters everywhere and gas prices dropping, plus car manufacturers pulling back on making EV cars and going back to pushing the gas engine cars and trucks. I do wonder if Space X will make an battery powered rocket.
 
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Boudica

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I'm reading a book right now... The story is fiction but it takes place around 1906 and the historical stuff is true. Anyway, they had electric bikes cars and trollies way back then! Not the same of course, but reading about electric cars back then is kind of interesting.
 
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ikarasu

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For what its worth... I love my F150 Lightning Electric.

Costs me about $5 to go 400 KM.... I used to pay $600 a month in gas, and now I'm at about $35 in electricity. If you cant charge at home, it'll end up being a lot more... but if you charge at home, its nice and cheap!
 

Gino

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For what its worth... I love my F150 Lightning Electric.

Costs me about $5 to go 400 KM.... I used to pay $600 a month in gas, and now I'm at about $35 in electricity. If you cant charge at home, it'll end up being a lot more... but if you charge at home, its nice and cheap!

Somewhat curious. How much did it cost to put your charging system including parts and labor ?? Did you get the setup specified for the F 150 ?? Which battery setup is in your truck ?? How long is it expected to keep a full charge over time ??
 

ikarasu

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Somewhat curious. How much did it cost to put your charging system including parts and labor ?? Did you get the setup specified for the F 150 ?? Which battery setup is in your truck ?? How long is it expected to keep a full charge over time ??
I paid $800 for a 60 amp charging system, the fastest you can get. It comes with a 50 amp... But I plugged the 50 amp in at work, I just never use it. I mainly got it because the government gave me $600 off of it... and paid for half the install. So charger was $200... And I plan on moving, so I figure worst case it increases my house value.

I got it installed in my garage about 5 FT from the breaker panel - So It cost me $450 for an electrician... I used the guy we use at work all the time, so he gave me a deal. That included permit and everything - The government pays for 50% up to $600... So that cost me $225. So $425 total to wire my house up with the fastest charger..... I dont know if theyre doing it in USA, but in Canada ford is giving away a free charger as well as install with the purchase or lease of an F150.. But my guess is thats area dependent.

I have the standard low range battery, We got the cheapest model because it's a work truck. It gets 280 miles per charge - Sounds low, and if you do a lot of traveling it is... but for work / city stuff, and the occasional 1000 mile trip, its not bad. Thats 280 actual miles, sitting idling doesnt count towards it like gas does - I get to about 30% and then plug it in at night, and its charged to 100% in 7 hours. I've never once used a fast charger, or non home charger, except when I go on vacation 500 miles away.. then it's about $20-30 to fill it up, and takes about 20 minutes to get from 20%-85%. I've only done 1 long trip to seattle (400 miles), The hotel had free charging so I didnt have to use fast charging much, just to top it up because we were exploring a lot.



Early electrics the batteries sucked and died quick. People with 5 year old vehicles are reporting the battery is at 98% health. It comes with an 8 years, or 160,000 KM warranty... Some people with 10 year old Teslas are still at 90% health. Now if something does happen to it, thats like a 20-30k repair... But those cases are rare, and usually involves people bringing it offroading and denting the battery.


I would get the extended range battery again if I could, this is a lease instead of a finance as we wanted to test electric. It involves a bit more forethought, if I know one of our employees is going to do installs all around the city, I know I need to charge it the night before so he's not wasting 30 minutes at a charging dicking around on his phone waiting. But I havent had to goto a gas station in 6 months - I get home, I spend 20 seconds to plug the vehicle in...and its always ready. I know gas only takes 5-10 minutes, but its nice not having to stop and get gas, and just always be ready.


Now on the other hand... The owner of the company has borrowed it a dozen times to play with it. He has a cottage in USA he goes to every other week... when he's towing a boat, he gets maybe 140-150 miles per charge... For towing they suck. He has to stop and charge like 3 times, he said what takes him 3 hours in his landrover took him 8 the first time in the lightning... then 5 the rest of the times once he got over the running out of battery fear. He loves how it drives, and said for city driving nothing beats it... but if you're constantly towing, or going 200 miles away, he'd never purchase one for himself.


So it has advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I'd never go back! The gas savings alone almost pays for the the lease / financing on a gas truck.... And its such a smooth / quiet ride, I've been in mazaratis, jags, land rovers, nothing drives as smooth as the lightning does... or as quick.
 
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