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Tariff impact, can't get clearer than this

damonCA21

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It's weird how they can call a loan an investment. It'd like me saying my CC companies are investing in me. It'll be interesting when the full terms come out, if they do.. but from the sounds of it, The US Picks a project they want funded... Japan will fund the project (Unless they dont want to, they can turn it down within 45 days), And then 50% of the proffits from said project goes to USA, 50% to Japan until a set amount is reached... probably at minimum their funding back, but likely much more than their funding. This sounds like a Modified version of treasury bonds.... I wonder if its purpose behind the scenes is to Borrow more money without raising the debt level more than it already is.

How is that different from me going to a bank with a proposal... The bank saying they think I'll make money, so they'll fund it.... and I have to pay the money back? Thats not really an investment at all... To me it sounds like USA just got a 550 billion line of credit from Japan.

Doesn't this do the opposite of what Trump wants... And put further ownership of industries in foreign hands? Unless they don't own it at all and are simply an investor, then they get kicked out once their investment is repaid.
Trump doesn't really understand economics, hence having been bankrupt 4 times. Would you let this man look after your money. What he is good at is getting rich people to fund his schemes, which then often fail
 
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John Miller

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The tariffs are bringing in Trillions (actually not) but they are bringing in money. Fact is, that money comes from the American people.
 
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Johnny Best

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The tariffs are bringing in Trillions (actually not) but they are bringing in money. Fact is, that money comes from the American people.
You know, you watch CNN to much, you just dislike Trump and all his actions. You never said jackshit when they were letting millions of illegals in and sending billions to Ukrane and having a stupid guy running the country, but now, you are on the bandwagon of despair over a surcharge. The only thing you did not do is use the word “Natzi”.
 
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damonCA21

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Still at least trump has stopped the war over there now just like he promised... oh hang on....
 
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GAC05

Quit buggin' me
The President, making work for sign shops across the nation!
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I can't imagine how many DOD forms and email addresses will have to be scrapped.

On a sign-related point - Kerning on a circular path is not that hard; it looks like they didn't even try on this one.
 
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Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
The President, making work for sign shops across the nation!
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I can't imagine how many DOD forms and email addresses will have to be scrapped.

On a sign-related point - Kerning on a circular path is not that hard; it looks like they didn't even try on this one.
It is all 100% ai generated slop. Nothing to respect here. Personally, I'm pretty disgusted by the graphics crap being generated by the "Whitehouse"
It's just embarrassing.
 
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John Miller

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"THE TARIFFS ARE BRINGING IN TRILLIONS"
I don't know about trillions but lots of money and it's all coming out or the American peoples pockets.
 

Kalispel

New Member
Our business is sheet metal fabrication.
Our policy has always been to source locally wherever it is practical.
We are experiencing huge inflationary cost increases - materials, tooling, freight, subscription services, etc.
The US clearly lacks the manufacturing capacity to onshore enough to significantly offset imported products.

We have been competing with China for years and done quite well.
Tariff rhetoric sounds good but somebody has to pay the toll — tariffs are a flat tax with a different name.
I do not think it will not end well.

Since I’m new here, I will make my political views known
I live in a bright red county and I voted republican for 45 years
My extended family is republican and we have spawned a couple generations of new right wingers.
We have our own cozy echo chamber here.
I was thrilled when Trump won and I like most of what he does.
I hate the progressive agenda, the green agenda and wokeness.
I am very happy to see the pendulum swing.

All that said - Trump’s economic policies are a huge disappointment to me.
Too abrupt, scattered, poorly executed and closely aligned with the goals of the billionaires.
 
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damonCA21

Active Member
Our business is sheet metal fabrication.
Our policy has always been to source locally wherever it is practical.
We are experiencing huge inflationary cost increases - materials, tooling, freight, subscription services, etc.
The US clearly lacks the manufacturing capacity to onshore enough to significantly offset imported products.

We have been competing with China for years and done quite well.
Tariff rhetoric sounds good but somebody has to pay the toll — tariffs are a flat tax with a different name.
I do not think it will not end well.

Since I’m new here, I will make my political views known
I live in a bright red county and I voted republican for 45 years
My extended family is republican and we have spawned a couple generations of new right wingers.
We have our own cozy echo chamber here.
I was thrilled when Trump won and I like most of what he does.
I hate the progressive agenda, the green agenda and wokeness.
I am very happy to see the pendulum swing.

All that said - Trump’s economic policies are a huge disappointment to me.
Too abrupt, scattered, poorly executed and closely aligned with the goals of the billionaires.
You really thought voting for a man with no understanding of economics who doesnt care about the normal working man only his rich friends was ever going to end well?
 
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Kalispel

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There was NO POSSIBLE WAY I would have voted for an extension of the liberal agenda!

The wokeness nonsense, open borders (we also have a house in southern Az 12 miles north of Mexico), the green agenda destroying power infrastructure and using environmental excuses to regulate private land use (we own two farms and live in an Ag community). All awful from my perspective.

We needed Trump to unwind the mess. So, yes - I voted for Trump knowing he is also a lunatic with big balls. Perfect for the job. And, I’d vote for his third term today. Everything has a cost and some economic pain is just fine if the rest of the job gets done.

The Democratic Party does not seem to understand how repugnant the far left agenda is to many people. A MODERATE center-lane democrat would have won by a landslide! Fortunately, they ran the worst candidate possible. Biden would have beat Trump even given his weaknesses.
 
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damonCA21

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I do agree going too far either way never works. At least with someone in the centre you don't get extreme ideas that don't work.

Trumps problem is he is trying to do too much all at once and makes half thought out decisions without getting the experts to plan them properly

Will be interesting to see how trump reacts to the events yesterday
 
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ikarasu

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This is why having a two-party system sucks. And it feels like lately it's either you're far left or you're far right and you can't fall in between... Or at least it's not accepted that you fall in between.

I said it before, I voted for him the first term... I leaned more towards his policies and felt like Hillary was going to be 100 times worse than Trump. I still agree with some of Trump's policies, but I feel like people let him get away with too much s*** that they should not let him get away with and America is suffering for it.

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Seems like nowadays people don't get that you can vote for the lesser evil, and still call out things that are bad whether it's your party or the other party that's in office.

I don't think Trump is what caused it, but I do think Trump being in office and the way he treats his opponents has amplified it a lot. He seems to think if you don't agree with his policies that makes you the enemy... And he's not afraid to say it and repeat it and drill it into everyone's head that that's the way it is.

I don't mind people who are hardcore mega... I was sad to hear about Charlie Kirk yesterday, I watch him on YouTube all the time.... I felt like he is what a true Republican or Democrat should be.... He was pretty much always respectful, even if you did not agree with his views he was just there to provide facts and talk about his viewpoint, he didn't expect people to change their mind and was only there for the conversation and to spread awareness. I didn't agree with everything you said, but at least what he said he backed it up with reasoning that most people could understand, and at least see why he felt the way he did. He never resorted to name calling or bullying, and he didn't deserve anything that happened to him.

I wish more people were like him, on both sides of the fence.
 
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MikePro

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well then maybe you should simply start listening to Billboard Chris, the Canadian Charlie
...and stop invoking the latter's name as if to feign some new form of morals yet to be expressed here.
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
Trump's ideas aren't extreme at all. In fact, Trump is actually a very middle of the road (common sense). I would consider him a centrist. The left has gone so far extreme left making the middle look extreme right.

Apparently far right now mean's you are against:
- crime-ridden cities
- child mutilation
- foreign terrorists invading the U.S.
- celebrating murder
- porn in schools
- drug cartels killing Americans
- career criminals roaming free
- subway stabbings

Everyone should be against these things, but the "left" is pushing them with the help of main stream media and paid off politicians.

The far right does ridiculous things too. Our TX governor mandating that the 10 commandments be displayed in every class room. I'm religious, but that is a bridge too far when you have to consider other religions have equal weight in our society.
 
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Gino

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The far right does ridiculous things too. Our TX governor mandating that the 10 commandments be displayed in every class room. I'm religious, but that is a bridge too far when you have to consider other religions have equal weight in our society.

Actually, the schools are funded by the United States Government and local & state taxes, so I can see & understand why only the ten commandments would/could go in..... thus omitting any other religion(s). If other religions want, they could very easily make the choice to school their children in one of their own schools. Now, I don't think every classroom needs them, however maybe one in the lobby of the school would be sufficient.

Personally, I'm a little tired of people coming into this country and wanting things the way they were in their old country. In probably 95% of the people coming here, they left a place which was bad in many ways and came here to start over or get ahead. By our laws, one needs to take oaths and pass some tests, which evidently, no one adheres to. You need to know something like 6 outta 10 civics type questions, pass a knowledge of english test and take an oath to renounce your old country and make your new allegiance to this country. There're more things involved like visitors, green cards and working ways, but almost all cases need a medical examination.

There are extremes all around us and like never before. The murder of charlie kirk is proof of that. There.... was a guy who didn't agree with things kirk said or debated, so, he cowardly hid far away, took careful aim and murdered someone because of his difference of opinion. This has nothing to do with tariffs but all to do with how nuts the world is getting.
 
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